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. bush, robert dole, gary hart, richard gephardt, joseph biden and michael dukakis. mr. cramer died this past monday at the age of 62. this is about an hour. c-span: richard ben cramer, in your book "what it takes: the way to the white house." is there any one thing that was a thread through the six candidates that you followed that would tell you what it takes? >> guest: i think there was, although i didn't set out to write a paradigm of a presidential candidate. there were some similarities, and, alas, similarities in the stories of their campaigns. i found out that the title what it takes is kind of a double-edged sword because all of them start out thinking they have what it takes, but in the end they find out what it takes from them, and what it takes is that whole life that brought them to the point they could be candidates in the first place. c-span: when did you start this book? >> guest: the middle of 1986 is when i wrote the proposal. i was out there working by the end of '86. c-span: who are the six candidates? >> guest: i had two republicans, george bush and bob dole, an
. it started out wrong, an excuse to escape the law. the theory of the george bush's administration is to keep foreigners outside foreign territory did not give tomb -- need to give them legal rights. it is and offensive concept you can escape the law by keeping people in guantanamo. the government still argues that foremost rights except the right to habeas corpus and that has been gutted by the interpretation of the d.c. circuit, the most conservative circuit in the country. the d.c. circuit's interpretation of what habeas means would have allowed nazi germany to hold people in concentration camps because any of them presented by the government must be accepted. it is -- guantanamo is fundamentally wrong for the reason andy worthington said. of 150 people there, 86 have been cleared for release by an interagency task force of the most conservative security experts. we are holding people we say we shouldn't hold. that is crazy. we say we should hold them because it is politically inconvenient to let them go. it is wrong. absolutely wrong, guantanamo is. secondly, over christmas i was away and
figure. he had served as chief of staff to george tenet when george tenet under george bush developed their torture and secret prison program. john brennan's association with the torture and secret prison program of the george bush era of the cia is what sunk his chances for being picked as director of the cia at the start of the obama presidency. it's kind of weird. it's almost a foreign concept in american modern politics that the left might block something from happening, but it's true. liberals thought obama stopping the torture program wasn't enough. that people tarred by association with that program should not be promoted, that there should be political accountability for people who were close to the torture policy. liberals raised enough noise about john brennan's potential nomination to run the cia in 2008 and 2009 that it never happened. at least it never happened in the first obama term. now it is happening in the second obama term. now apparently with the official nomination of john brennan to lead the cia today, now apparently we know that the white house has decided to g
across all of the presidencies, again, from roosevelt to george w. bush and a series of lessons. lesson number one is moved fast. the concluding snippet of the lesson goes like this, the day after the election is savvy health adviser to announce to the president-elect and says mr. or madame president, triet we are almost out of time. when you win an election for a very brief moment, you have to see enormous amount of capital. that capital you lose that capital every single day and most presidents come into office and forget that. they think the people were chosen for the people that selected me that means they selected my agenda and that's true for about six months that agenda will dominate washington. after about july of the first year what's everybody talking about? the midterm election. everybody's running for the midterm and all the capital that you gained is gone. some presidents get this. johnson got it, george w. bush got it, she was very, very shrewd about cramming things through, and we believe the barack obama got it partially because she dragged the research. we have reason t
's name first came up in president obama's first term, he was roundly panned for helping advise the bush white house about enhanceed interrogation. he rejects that. he said he was not in favor of that, nonetheless he had to withdraw his nomination due to an outcry about that. the fact that there is not a lot of people talking about drone warfare indicates we've settled into a new normal where people have come to expect this. even the lawmakers are not putting much heat on it, and it gives us an opportunity to see how far down that road we've gone. is it like taking your shoes off at the airport having someone listening to your phone calls is it something that we accept in the name of security, the problem it's created to solve is creating more of a problem and more concerns that we should be worried about. theit will be interesting to hear where the senate has come down on it, the left, which is very muted, and the public view about a program that people pretty much accepted with a shrug because it comes from obama and not bush. >> john: does the fact that he has killed lots of terrorist
and around the world. we begin our show in australia for hundreds of bush fires continue to rage amidst the country's fiercest heat wave in more than 80 years. it's so hot, the australian bureau of neurology has taken the unprecedented step of adding two new colors -- deep purple and pink -- to its weather maps to show to ventures between 122 and 129 degrees fahrenheit. on monday, the australian prime minister toured fire ravaged tasmania where some 50,000 acres of forests and farmland were destroyed in fires. we live in a country that is hot and dry and where we sustain very destructive fires periodically. so there is always going to be risk. while still would not put anyone down to climate change, the weather does not work like that, but we do know over time, as a result of climate change, we are going to see more extreme weather events and conditions, so we live with this risk and we need to have the best systems to manage it. >> while australia is suffering from record shattering heat, in the united states the national oceanic and at miss barrett administration announced that 2012 w
the bush tax cuts which arguably through us in a economic crisis before to cut and have sequester cut that we have tabled for a couple of months and those people would have needed more. >> but at the same time john, many nonprofits came out in the fiscal cliff debating and the national dialogue . say that we are concerned about it. . it is it made for people over 300. it is it a overall pressure that we had. >> it is it stopping with the ridiculous talking points. if the bush tax cuts were so bad why did you extend them permanently it is it ridiculous to blame the tax cuts and extend them permanently except on maul margin of upper income earnerings. we have 7 billion out of the 300 billion that are given totally nationwide. they are from private. people want help . i was seeing the greatest charity in the world saw 10s was millions gave my hedge fund managers and far one of the greatest in the world. >> i love that when johnathon is called evil he starts to laugh and smile . >> it makes him feel good. >>> and the facts that the middle class give a higher percentage of the income is r
him. >> he went after you. >> one of the bright lights in the bush era was when he spoke of the white house correspondents' dinner. you rarely see someone in your face. it was at that moment when the country was -- it was really a rebuke to journalists. remember? >> i went on his show as a journalist. i was sweating. he explains from then on he will be in character. he said i am a person who has willful disregard for everything you believe in. [laughter] >> you kind of have to do a mindset check. it is very confusing. >> last year, the obama administration had a package of recommendations that appeared to be dead on arrival. why? >> examples-simpson? >> i am assuming. -- is that the bulls-simpson? -- simpson-bowles? >> i am assuming. >> i think there was pushed back in the right way. the commission was focused on cuts and not investments. the great deficit in this country is the investment deficit, the investment in people and infrastructure. there were attempts to revive it. it was a super committee proposal. i think it is a good thing the super committee failed to reach an agreement
struggle of iraq from george w. bush tobackback." start with the title of the book. what was the end game of last year? >> guest: part of what i wanted to do with the co-author is capture what happened since the surge. there was a number of books on the surge forces in iraq in 2008 and what happened after that, but i was interested in, i think, the real question is what kind of a iraq did the united states leave behind after sacrifice of 145 american lives lost, temperatures of thousands wounded, and hundreds of millions of dollars spent. what was the american policy towards iraq, and what's iraq look like today? that was the question i sought to address, but i covered the entire scope of the war. >> a year op, or, i guess, in december 2011, what had we achieved, and a year on, have we achieved that? >> well, by the time of -- by december 2011, there was a number of elections in iraq which was to the good, but iraq had not fully become a democracy in the sense there was not a peaceful transfer of power from the current regime led to another prime minister. that's a true test of a democrac
, but was forced to withdraw from consideration amidst protests over his role at the cia under the bush administration. brennan has publicly supported the cia's policies of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques and extraordinary rendition, and was a key proponent of drone strikes in obama's first term. as his nomination was announced, the activist group codepink gathered outside the white house in protest. in a nod to the potential opposition he faces with hagel's nomination, president obama urged lawmakers to give his choices a speedy confirmation. >> i hope that the senate will act on his confirmation as promptly. and when it comes to national security, we don't like to leave a lot of gaps. between the time one set of leaders transitions out and another transitions in. we need to get moving quickly on this. >> the financial giant big of america has agreed to pay more than $11 billion to the government-backed mortgage finance company fannie mae for flooding it with toxic mortgages during the financial crisis. the justice to parvaz says bank of america executed a scheme that would
step toward demolishing the mess that bush created. leading with afghanistan's president and making a big announcement. plus, remember when todd "legitimate rape" aiken sent the republican party scrambling into embarrassment mode? today, a sitting congressman said aiken was partly right. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. and should president obama be on mount rushmore? it's a provocative question getting a lot of debate today. that's coming up. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. l stubbed i have a cold, and i took nyquil,l stubbed. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant fo
, a subaru. >>> today, a big step toward putting an end to this eight-year mess that was george w. bush's foreign policy. at the white house, he met with the president of afghanistan and made a big announcement. >> we achieved our central goal, which is, or have come very close to achieving our central goal, which is to decapacitate al-qaeda, to make sure they can't attack us again. by next year, 2014, the transition will be complete. afghans will have full responsibility for their security, and this war will come to a responsible end. >> yes, a reduced role for the u.s. troops will start this spring. at the more than 4,000 -- after more than 4,000 days of combat it is past time for this to be over. we're a step closer to undoing the reckless policy that bush-cheney left us. no more idea that diplomacy is for weak people, no more idea that the secretary of defense, chuck hagel matters. the president has taken the bush doctrine and kicked it out the door. an historic stamp that president obama is putting on american foreign policy. joining me now is former congressman pat murphy, democra
they hate the debt ceiling because they only did it for bush 17 times. don't go away, gentlemen, we're back with you in a second. but up next, president obama has an another four years to do what he wants but is that four more years or 16 months. um, hello. these ugly stains are ruining my good looks and style. and good luck using that cleaner. excuse me, miss ? he's right. those are tough hard water stains, and that cleaner's not gonna cut it. truth is, 85% of us have hard water and many don't even know it. you need lime-a-way. lime-a-way is specially formulated to conquer hard water stains. it's 4 times more effective at removing lime scale than the leading bathroom cleaner. see the lime-a-way difference or your money back. >> john: welcome back. thus far we've been discussing what president obama would like to get done in a second term, but as we know in washington, d.c. the best laid plans of parties and presidents tend to get distorted obstructed misrepresented, demonized, go afoul and askance. how does he go about his second term agenda? with us is reid epstein along with g
during the bush administration and, frankly, with the drone wars of the obama years. >>> and then politics loses one of its best biographers, well, ever. saying good-bye to richard ben kramer, a man who knew what it takes better than anybody. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, january 8th, 2013. this is "daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. my first reads of the morning. chuck hagel's nomination has set up a tough, new political fight for the white house. a fight president obama signaled he's ready to have over the plain spoken vietnam veteran. >> willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. even if it defied the conventional wisdom. that's exactly the spirit i want on my national security team. >> under fire for his past statements about israel and iran. hagel is now speaking out. told his hometown newspaper "lincoln journal star." the distersions about my record have been astounding. once voicing opposition to unilateral sanctions on iran, hagel says while he was "hanging out there in no man's land unable to respond to charges, falsehoods and i
on nuclear arms, and then when bush comes into office in january of '89 and of course dukakis was my choice come and he was leading in the race, but be that as a make and a bush comes in. he has a golden opportunity. this is the german moment. this is -- gorbachev is offering and, as he said, and oyster. take all the soviet troops out of eastern europe. he's going to let nato take over germany, united germany. data can have germany as long as nato doesn't go. these tens of things are in the year. what does bush to? tennant -- @booktv square happens in the suspense relations. he does business as usual behind-the-scenes in china. he goes into panama in december of '89. on the forget because before the july. it kill the business that week, and the american people loved it. they back the invasion. it was our backyard. it was a war on drugs, and that was a new issue. communism had been forgotten. it was a war on drugs and noriega look like a bad guy. he was a new stalin at that point. and then a year later that's another until story because the first iraqi war is depressing when you go into all
rove was finished in 2008, when the bush presidency started to come to an end. he had been forced out of the white house in 2007. he was the prime target in the two biggest scandals of the bush era, the valerie plame affair and the united states attorney scandal. bush left the white house with a 22% approval rating, the lowest in the history of united states and even top republican strategist like ed rollins said that his brand was tainted forever, no one would ever would want to -- with bush and karl rove. the fact of the matter is he was back working again within a matter of weeks. and it became evident to me in 2000 -- to early 2010 about a year after obama took office, three things happened. the first was -- it came from united states supreme court and i think no person in the united states that i can think of has benefited more from the supreme court then karl rove. two decisions. one in 2000 obviously was washed the gore which put his candidate in the white house and two, in 2010, citizens united decision. that opened the floodgates for contributions, unlimited contributions and
? wonder you you never wanted to grant president bush? >> well, i have always voted to raise the debt ceiling. in congress, those of us in the congress, granted him his wish. we never tried to deny him the ability to pay our bills. i want to do it now because this congress, at least this house of representatives would like to see is the default on our obligations. that is why i think the president ought to do it himself. if congress refuses to do so. neil: i don't know about you, you are in this camp, many of your colleagues when president bush was around, they were on the brink a number of times arguing about what he was doing. bringing us ultimately to default. isn't the issue what brings us to this point time and again? fifty some odd time since world war ii? if the underlying spending. it seems like you guys are going through hoops to avoid the underlying problem. and that problem is spending. >> spending may be a problem. but what do we spend the money on? we spend this money to fund two wars that we never paid for. we have never knock on the war and made sacrifices tax wise or o
the so-called enhanced interrogation technique, most commonly known as waterboarding, back under the bush administration am a but that should not keep him from being nominated -- bush administration thomas but that should not keep him from being -- back under the bush administration. that should not keep him from being confirmed. he is a real vietnam veteran, chuck hagel. that is not what is controversial about him. he is a very outspoken politician. he was a republican senator, but it is the republicans who do not like him now because he supported president obama in the 20 12th and also because of the things he said. is about three things ash in 2012 and also because of the things he said. -- who do not like him now because he supported president obama in 2012 and also because of things he said. it is because of three things. most importantly, he called one of the most powerful pro-israel lobby groups in washington pro -- jew is -- row-jewish -- rpro- jewish. >> is looking -- is it looking like he will get calm her -- is it looking like he will get confirmation? >> some i not vote for hi
as waterboarding, back under the bush administration am a but that should not keep him from being nominated -- bush administration thomas but that should not keep him from being -- back under the bush administration. that should not keep him from being confirmed. he is a real vietnam veteran, chuck hagel. that is not what is controversial about him. he is a very outspoken politician. he was a republican senator, but it is the republicans who do not like him now because he supported president obama in the 20 12th and also because of the things he said. is about three things ash in 2012 and also because of the things he said. -- who do not like him now because he supported president obama in 2012 and also because of things he said. it is because of three things. most importantly, he called one of the most powerful pro-israel lobby groups in washington pro -- jew is -- row-jewish -- rpro- jewish. >> is looking -- is it looking like he will get calm her -- is it looking like he will get confirmation? >> some i not vote for him because of his aggressively gay comments -- some might not vote for him beca
of the vietnam war where he was wounded. he incurred political bruises when he opposed president bush's surge in iraq. a look at the hagel record and what it could mean for his confirmation process. >> first enlisted soldier, he broke ranks with fellow republicans when president bush announced his intention to send david petraeus and nearly 30,000 troops to iraq. >> this speech given last night but this president represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. >> president obama agreed with senator hagel in 2007. >> this continues to be a disastrous foreign policy mistake. we are now confronted with the question, how do we clean up the mess and make the best out of a situation in which there are no good options. >> are we going to continue to invest in american blood and treasure at the same rate we are doing now? >> the troops largely allowed the u.s. military to turn the war around and end the war in iraq for good in december of 2011. today the president said that his views were shaped in vietnam. >> when his brother was injured by a mine, chuck risked hi
, a joint session of congress officially certified george w. bush the winner of the 2000 presidential election. it had been one of the hardest fought campaigns in recent memory. texas governor versus the vice-president and when the election results came in the vice-president won the popular vote because florida was too close to call, it went into equivalent of overtime, remember the pregnant, hanging and dip pelled chads and after challenges to the supreme court, 5-4 to halt the recall in florida and bush took florida getting the 25 needed electoral votes and he took the oath of office and lawmakers recognizing george w. bush 12 years ago. and is his parents' 68th wedding anniversary, they're now the longest married presidential couple in history. they met at a christmas dance in connecticut in 1941, married four years later and mr. bush, wearing his officer's uniform. he was 21 and on leave from active duty in world war ii as a navy pilot. mrs. bush was 20 and her groom was the first boy she'd ever kissed. president bush is still in a houston hospital for related cough and he's in a
] with both use a little german. when george w. bush appointed a known family retainer to the attorney general, i did a column that ran alberto gonzales with loyal umbrellas. and we both read about animals than times. he famously wrote a lot of things about cat. my daughter said once at the dinner table and somebody brought up cats, daddy hates cats. and i said that he does not hate cats. that would be prejudice. and you crows have been brought up to a poor prejudice. daddy has never met a cat that he likes. [laughter] and i've written about corgis. i wrote in a column once the corgis look like a breed of dog had been assembled from parts of other breeds of dog. cannot the part that those other breeds are all that sorry about giving up. [laughter] i'll admit there's never been a broadway show called corgis. [laughter] i am a second generation poet. i don't know about elliott. my father was a grocer for most of his working life, but he had a restaurant for a few years and take a vantage of that to read a couplet on the menu at lunch every day, mostly about pie. i had a lot of trouble with pie w
secretary under bush 41, even though cheney had managed to get five deferments from serving in the vietnam war. chuck hagel served in the vietnam war in the same unit with his brother tom, as the president pointed out. how can republicans question hagel's qualifications? today senator hagel accepted president obama's nomination and immediately focused on the troops. >> these are people who give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. this is particularly important at a time as we complete our mission in afghanistan and support the troops and military families who have sacrificed so much over more than a decade of war. >> when does a man's resume become outstanding? two committees in congress dealing with the military, foreign policy and also on the intel committee. also, a combat veteran. vietnam vets ought to love the fact that someone from their era is now going to be in this position. i think he'll get confirmed because the standard is dick cheney, who took less than a week to get confirmed after john tower didn't cut it under bush 41. this should be a slam-
in the bush administration at that time accepted the judgment of our 16 intelligence communities. i present it had to the u.n. three months before i present it had to the u.n., congress passed a resolution, also supported by senator hagel and many other senators that would give the president the authority to go to war. weren't half-truths is what we were being told by the intelligence community. we subsequently found out that a lot of that information was not accurate and that is very unfortunate but that's the way it unfolded. >> was he wrong on iraq? >> with respect to what? >> with respect to what he ultimately called a huge foreign policy blunder? >> he -- that's his characterization and if people want to challenge his characterization, they will have that opportunity. >> in your judgment, was he wrong on iraq? >> i would not have called it that, i would have said what i think that the president had more than sufficient basis to believe there were weapons of mass destruction that were a danger to the world and possibility of those weapons going to terrorists. and so, he undertook milita
as clinton and one-third more than george w. bush and he's nominated female judges at twice the rate of president bush and more women, minority and gay judges than any previous president has. on wednesday, white house press secretary jay carney defend tornado president's record. >> the president's senior staff here is well -- women are well recommended in the president's senior staff here. two of the three deputies, deputy chiefs of staff are women. the white house council is a woman. a woman runs homeland security for this country. secretary that nepolitano. the cabinet secretary in charge of the most piece of domestic policy generation is a woman, kathleen sebelius. look at the record. it's a vast improvement. >> i am of two minds about this story. one, this was kind troling and little bit of a trap. the photo spoke with such a powerful photo that it ended up sort of dominating the actual content of the art cal that was below the photo which said, look, this is one-third better than previous administration equal can bottom line and deep problems in the pipeline. at the same time, i
the wife and she says, what? you don't mind if i go in the bushes with the leprechaun? he says, no, no, go ahead. it's a million dollars. she says, i don't care about the car but a million dollars that could help us a lot. so she goes into the bushes with the leprechaun. about an hour later, they are coming out, she's adjusting her skirt, fixing her hair, and the leprechaun says, thank you very much. how old is your husband? she says, he's 44. he's a little too old to be believing in leprechauns, isn't he? so that's for those who don't respect their own heritage. in addition to that idea of the cross roads of identity and the politics of identity, the other thing i had wanted to speak about for a second was the cross roads of community building. my -- i've been fortunate enough with my experiences, which have all been in the san francisco bay area, to have the ability to go and to listen to a lot of different music and to perform, to go and listen, and i can't say enough what events like this do for young folks for myself who have to negotiate through the pressure of a dual identity. i ca
. it ended up being decided by the governors, bush's brother, a supreme court judge chosen by his father. >>> george bush was asked if he had ever been wrong and said he could not think of a time. he is still saying that. [laughter] humble man. we are about out of time. do you have a short question? >> what is the circulation of "the nation"? >> 1.5 million readers online and 160,000 paper circulation. paul newman was a great and loyal friend and supporter. his partner in crime, robert redford, has been a supporter. we have a circle of 100 people who give each year. 30,000 associates give little each month above the subscription price in the belief it is not just a media institution but a community. there are 40 discussion groups around the country. [applause] >> these people obviously support it for what it espouses and believes in. do they all know that you have dirty martinis and marvin gaye? >> you have to keep perspectives. everyone's work is demanding. it is trying to make sense of these times and keep some hope. if we were meeting this time last year, it was a bully -- bleak time.
of life. things we just accept now. and you see how it's changed public perception. during the bush administration, polls showed that a majority of americans were opposed to torture. if you look at the polling now, a majority of americans are okay with torture. so, you have to stop and ask yourselves, what has happened? and why has this become the picture of america? i'm somewhat optimistic that if we go into the second term of the obama administration, perhaps there is some room for optimism on the national security front. i think there arlet of different pieces that make up this puzzle, that portrays a bad picture of america, and guantanamo is one piece of the puzzle. there's the question of indefinite, the programs, the military program and the cia program, impugn any for -- impugnty for torture, and pieces in the puzzle that in my view fit together to present a bad picture of america. so i'm hopeful that in the second term the administration will pull those pieces apart and clean them up and put them back together to make a better picture. but an important piece of that is guan
devastating cuts to social security and medicare, in order to cover costs to things like the bush tax cuts, unpaid for wars in iraq and afghanistan don't make sense. so i agree with the president. the american people should not be held hostage with this game of using the debt ceiling as a way to try to extract what you couldn't get through the ballot box. and i would urge the president to move forward and continue to have the economy grow, let the government move forward. don't let this be a way that anyone in congress tries to manipulate the process. >> so you're leaving options on the table. you would not be opposed to invoking the 14th amendment or using a coin or whatever options. >> there are no great options if someone wants to hold you hostage but you can't negotiate with hostage takers, you can't constantly pay ransom. so i think tpt must use one of the option before him whichever is the least offensive use that. but this sthinks. this is not the way to run government. no small businessman in america would borrow money to keep the business afloat and then say later to the bank i'm
the administration of president george w. bush. in her book, she helps us understand why the failures of such direct investments in private firms are both significant problems in themselves and cautionary tales for those who would have the government rather than private investors allocate capital. the publication that regulates the disaster caps diane mr. shear as an institute senior fellow, i'll year in which has been prolific and influential. cited by reuters reporters, talk show host, across the country. i think in particular of her many, many contributions to our series called issues 2012, ranging from her analysis demonstrating that even adjusting for the state of the economy, a number of americans receiving food stamps is at an all time high. we've heard that ago in the campaign. to another in which she made clear that oil companies so vilified for some politicians are not monopolies controlled by a few wealthy internationalists, but rather an important source of wealth and income for millions of average americans. whether it's unreal clear markets in the "washington examiner," tax notes or te
back in 1989, former president bush, bush 41 after the shooting in stockton california issued an executive order banning shipment of assault represeweapons, former president clintonish ubed executive order banning assault weapons that have been modified. presidents have used this in the past not when it involves weapons but a whole host of reasons, president obama over his first term issued 144 executive orders. former president bush, george w. bush issued 291 of these executive orders over both of his terms. so, this is not unusual for presidents to sort of go it alone if they don't believe they can get it done in congress. >> dan lothian reporting live in washington for us this morning. >>> in about four hours president obama is expected to nominate jacqk lew as treasury secretary. lew was a chief operating officer at citigroup. remember the treasury secretary is responsible for the nation's finance policy and his secure appear on all of your cash, at least the newly minted cash. everyone is wondering if jack lew will change what some people call his ridiculous signature. it
. that is not true. gorge bush got the auj saigs of the use of force. nowhere in the constitution does it say you must use certain words but auj saigs of force. everybody says that means war. >> president bush had authority but is it -- . >> he did it right. can you can regulations be put into place? involving guns? sure. but there is a second ae. you're right. i think all justice as gre that that is a right existing for individuals but the president doesn't get the sense of regulations through legislation without going through legislative branch there. is no regulation for him to bank legislation from. there is no legislation that he can then issue a regulation for. >> this if justice hannity doesn't get to the supreme court we won't get to your viewpoint. >> i rule in jay's favor. >> sur plised. >> thank you both this, is important debate. we skrnt an imperial presidency gaining power and legislative or executive fiat bypassing congress wex have separation of powers and co-equal wrampblgz of government. thank you both. coming up, egypt's plea to release the blind sheek if you can believe it. an
in iraq and afghanistan-- >> wait a minute, president bush got a-- >> that's not declaration of war. >> nowhere in the constitution does it say you must use certain words, but an authorization for force, everybody knows that means-- >> it's not just war and-- >> that's not even disputed that president bush had authority for the engagements in afghanistan and iraq. what is-- >> i happen to think he had authority. >> you said it right. can the states, can regulations be put in place involving guns? sure, but there's a second amendment, you're right i think all justices agree that's a right that exists for individuals, but the president didn't get to set the regulations or legislation without going through the legislative branch. there's no regulation for him to base the legislation from. in other words, there's no legislation that he can then have is a regulation for. take it upon his own, the constitution doesn't allow it. >> if justice hannity doesn't get to the supreme court, i don't think the courts would uphold your views, but-- >> okay, i rule in jay's favor, case closed. >> sur
spokesperson for president george w. bush, and richard goodstein, the democratic political consultant and former advisor to hillary clinton for president in 2008. good to see both of you. >> thank you. >> arthel: mercedes, you first. should president obama invoke the 14th amendment protection and bypass congress and do you think raising the debt ceiling is good or bad for the good of the country and tell me why? >> it would be unwise for president obama to basically bypass congress. as we know in the constitution, it clearly states that congress has the power of the purse. so it is their responsibility to deal with the debt ceiling. if we give the president this raw power grab, i think it would have a huge negative effect, in fact, a constitutional crisis, and it would not be in his interest to proceed without having congress take the steps necessary to raise the debt ceiling. >> arthel: we're going to get to the interest of the president later. , but this is the interest of the people. the bill is up come february. we need more money to pay for the bill. so richard, let me ask you if
his place ruined by their lies. his name is george w. bush. and he's sitting down there in texas watching the same old predictable crowd of war hawks trying good their number one more time. only this time there's someone in the white house wise to their game. joining me now is msnbc plienl analyst david corn from mother jones. and john fehry. you can throw in your ideas. my idea is this. he picked chuck hagel after watching two or three weeks of him trying to be destroyed by the right wing. he let them hang fire. give me your worst about this guy. do it all and i'm going to stick it in your face because i want a guy that thinks like me. he may be a notch or two to my left. take it. is that a sign of willing to fight this time? >> i think obama is the type of guy who picks his fights. sometimes he comes out and goes for the bipartisan compromise. doesn't work. he'll flip and do a fight. health care. great example. he tried to cut a deal with republicans, tried too hard according to some people on the left. left out the public option. then when he had no deal, what did he do? he ra
to irate tweeters, quote, that's the style on second reference for every president. bush, clinton, et cetera. i thought we could talk about it here. >> you have been wanting to do this. >> i have because this is, you know, last week was sort of the apex of it. but this is something i've been noticing for a while. i'll come on our show and other shows, and you know, we'll just be talking politics and i'll say, well, you know, clinton's doing this and obama's doing that and harry reid and whatever. and i'll get these, you know, i'll get people on twitter occasionally saying it should be president obama. always refer to him as president. show some respect. you're not being respectful enough and i'd say you know what? when bush was president, i called him bush. sometimes i called him bubba or w or 43. i call obama obama. if i'm in a formal setting, if i was interviewing him, if i was at a press conference, anything like that, of course i would refer to him as mr. president. you know, when i write an article for salon i follow the same convention. president obama and then obama, obama, oba
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